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I gotta say I'm dissapointed in AF right now. A few months ago I ordere 3-250g (Peach, Watermelon, Grape). Of those 3 the only one that came out ok was the grape, even though it had a tangy smell to it. The peach and watermelon both smelled and tasted like burnt plastic. I decided to stay away from AF because of it. (I went to smoking Lucid and Starbuzz with no issues) After reading about the new flavors AF had come out with I decided to give it a try. I figured as much as people are liking this stuff it has to be good. I ordered a 5-50g sampler pack from MNH. (Peach, Mint, Strawberry, Grape-Mint, Watermelon). 1st one I tried was the Grape Mint. It smoked and tasted pretty good. Maybe a little too much mint but nothing weird about the flavors. I figured it was a good sign. Next day I opened the watermelon, what do you know, same plastic smell. No kind of watermelon smell at all. I tried the peach last night and also the same thing, a really strong plastic smell. No peach taste when I smoked it. I have 2 more to try, I'm just hoping it's not more of the same. I just wanted to vent and let everybody know what's bee happening.

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I've had waaaaay too many issues with the 10 tubs of AF I ordered a bit ago. I'm actually really pissed about it.

Get's harsh easily, waay to temperamental, sometimes its fine sometimes not.

Wont be getting AF on a regular basis anymore unfortunately.

The cardamom, plum, and berry smoke fine consistenly the other 7 not so much.

WTF AF WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR QUALITY CONTROL LATELY?!?!?!?!
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and to think i ordered 5 tubs of af... sigh, hopefully all of them will be good batches, the watermelon i got last time doesn't even have the usual red dye of af, and it was pretty harsh.. flavor was too intense..
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QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Nov 25 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm i think the newer batches are good though, what are the production dates on your tubs? i ordered like 8 50g and 4 250g from hookahjohn and everything was either august or october of 08 and they are all perfect, I mean perfect!



Agreed. I have a bunch of AF all dated the same as you and they taste great. Just take into consideration that with most shisha brands you have to cherry pick flavors. For instance i may be an AF fan but would i personally get their watermelon...no. It does not go well with my taste.

But flavors such as grape, mint, orange, melon, esk apple, jasmine, lemon, cardamon, grenadine, plum, cinnamon, and a few more i go straight to AF for it.
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QUOTE (Sonthert @ Nov 25 2008, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Generally that "plastic" flavor is a humidity change effect. Maybe if they acclimate slightly, they'll be fine.



That's what I'm hoping for. I left it out over night and when I get home I'll see what happened. I tried doing that when I ordered the tubs back in July I figured it was just heat or humidity shock. I ordered from MNH and was living in TX at the time. It ws like 105 degress with 70% humidity. The 50g packs I ordered from MNH and had them shipped to SoCal where I'm living now.
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The AF Watermelon I bought a week ago showed up with the outer wrapper intact, but this really strong watermelon smell.

When I took the outer wrap off, I noticed red sticky stuff on it.....yep, the inner bag was put in the box with one end opened.

It's still perfectly smokable, but my god was it a royal mess.
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QUOTE (chinamon @ Nov 25 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i love AF but maybe AF just isnt for you?
thats why there are so many brands out there... there is a brand for everyone.
just because other people like AF doesnt mean that you have to.



Maybe you're right chinamon. I might have to be resigned to that fact.
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QUOTE (OC4111 @ Nov 25 2008, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (chinamon @ Nov 25 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i love AF but maybe AF just isnt for you?
thats why there are so many brands out there... there is a brand for everyone.
just because other people like AF doesnt mean that you have to.



Maybe you're right chinamon. I might have to be resigned to that fact.


You're not alone... I've tried about 10 different AF flavors and none of them really blew me away. I love the clouds but the flavour just isn't cutting it for me. Guess I'll stick with Nakhla and Tangiers.
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Well, here's why I keep trying to make all flavors of AF work. I just smoked a bowl of straight mint and it was pretty good. got some awesome clouds, good clean mint flavor. when I opened the package, no plastic smell just sweet mint. *sigh* So conflicted.

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QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Nov 27 2008, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't give up on AF without trying Cafe Latte and Eskandarini Apple.


Caffe Latte was good... Might need to try it with some Nakhla as the bottom layer to add flavor.
Next order: AF CL, AF EA, and Nakhla Coffee... and a boatload of Tangiers, needless to say.
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